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Few Users Little Understanding

Postby ohellino on Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:11 pm

only 52 users and no one who understands. seems just people leave big quotes of nietzsches work without much speculation. you would think there would be more active discussion but there is more on religious forums where people write about things about themselves and stuff and do not just post a big section of the bible or something. we don't have to write like nietzsche to discuss his ideas everyone seems so cautious as if atheism can't matter if its not put beautifully or aphoristically. philology is just words, psychology is just mind and philosophy is just asking the basic questions. it need not be esoteric and holy, are we or are we not atheists? or do people think nietzsche was not?
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Re: Few Users Little Understanding

Postby gla22 on Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:00 pm

Yeah I get a little annoyed with the writing style many posters have. It is"artsy" but not very functional for discussion.
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Re: Few Users Little Understanding

Postby War God on Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:08 pm

ohellino wrote:only 52 users and no one who understands. seems just people leave big quotes of nietzsches work without much speculation. you would think there would be more active discussion but there is more on religious forums where people write about things about themselves and stuff and do not just post a big section of the bible or something. we don't have to write like nietzsche to discuss his ideas everyone seems so cautious as if atheism can't matter if its not put beautifully or aphoristically. philology is just words, psychology is just mind and philosophy is just asking the basic questions. it need not be esoteric and holy, are we or are we not atheists? or do people think nietzsche was not?

Yes, I think Nietzsche was not. I think Nietzsche's God was the will to power. And I can argue for it.
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Re: Few Users Little Understanding

Postby ohellino on Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:46 pm

I take "god is dead" to mean god isn't cool. that is, you can well make a case for god, if not solely on the fact that so many believe in him, but literature and art that glorify or affirm him is ugly. better to write and create outside such word play and fix on psychological points, scientific theory, etc. no one is saying there is no god bluntly, no one saying they are atheist, but certainly they are and certainly nietzsche was.
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Re: Few Users Little Understanding

Postby Nietzsche on Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:14 pm

I'm an Atheist. Nietzsche's ultimate postion on God, is, that if he/she/it exists they are of no concern of ours. Btw, Who was it who said "God is dead?"
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Re: Few Users Little Understanding

Postby War God on Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:22 pm

ohellino wrote:I take "god is dead" to mean god isn't cool. that is, you can well make a case for god, if not solely on the fact that so many believe in him, but literature and art that glorify or affirm him is ugly. better to write and create outside such word play and fix on psychological points, scientific theory, etc. no one is saying there is no god bluntly, no one saying they are atheist, but certainly they are and certainly nietzsche was.

It seems you haven't understood what I said.

"God is dead" means that the Christian God has become unbelievable.

The literature and art that glorified him were about the only bright part of Christianity.

Nietzsche's God is the will to power---an "it", not a "he" or a "she".

Do you have anything interesting to say yourself?
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Re: Few Users Little Understanding

Postby sparkinthedark on Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:26 pm

I would love to debate on the God/Will to Power idea.
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Re: Few Users Little Understanding

Postby ohellino on Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:01 pm

God is dead=the christian god is not quite right=will to power is God= God is alive
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Re: Few Users Little Understanding

Postby gla22 on Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:04 pm

God is dead is representative of the death of Christian absolutist morality and Christian values.
The will to power Nietzsche saw as the main "force" in the universe, if the "force' of the universe is defined as God then I would say that the Will to Power was Nietzsches god.
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Re: Few Users Little Understanding

Postby sparkinthedark on Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:11 pm

That's one big IF, but I agree with the rest.
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