Nietzsche on woman & modern Brunhilda's

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Nietzsche on woman & modern Brunhilda's

Postby Nicu on Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:03 am

Hi,

I need to clarify my interpretation of N's thoughts on women. He coined vices like being "feminine", but still was in awe from Wagner's "Ring of Nibelungs". I suppose that he regarded Brunhilda as having a powerful spirit. Fact that brought me to think that by "feminine" he meant not women per se, but the traditional view of woman as being weak (and her decadence qualities).

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Where today to search Brunhilda-like women?

Perhaps sports. To succeed there one should have "manly" qualities: discipline, resistance, egoism. Also, in contrast to other areas that request such adjectives like business or politics, in sports you develop your physic. But, as a drawback, professional sport often destroys health rather than preserves it.

What do you think?
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Re: Nietzsche on woman & modern Brunhilda's

Postby Nicu on Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:53 pm

Why do you think that honorable are only virgins? That would be a precious asset, i agree, but i wouldn't be so radical. I am asking about modern Brunhilda's for practical uses, how today to find one to make a family with such spirits.

The decadent type of women is a corrupter of young men. How many possible heroes where the victims of women self-cunning. Her fear to lose her toy... Disgusting.
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Re: Nietzsche on woman & modern Brunhilda's

Postby Nicu on Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:59 pm

Barbarian wrote:
Nicu wrote:Why do you think that honorable are only virgins? That would be a precious asset, i agree, but i wouldn't be so radical. I am asking about modern Brunhilda's for practical uses, how today to find one to make a family with such spirits.

The decadent type of women is a corrupter of young men. How many possible heroes where the victims of women self-cunning. Her fear to lose her toy... Disgusting.


Honor is "high respect". Respect is distance. So, if all keep distance from her then only this can be high respect. I think a woman can not be alone heroic without a strong masculine surrounding, and if they are around her, then she is married or a virgin. In democracy honor is diminished. (Plato calls warriors "lovers of honor") In democracy nobody protects the honors of wives, daughters or sisters. I have noticed that many single women with children are giving their best to look smart/curageous by using all the flashy words like "Übermensch" etc., but we know what makes them do so...

You must first seek the soil of your expectations if you want to know what is possible.
I am close to the age where men lose the faith in a future. I see almost exactly through which phases has Nietzsche passed until his breakdown.


What about the women that control men? Women that use rich men resources to fulfill their financial need. N praised the beautiful magic of women, in contrast to their libertarian movements. Should these women be called Masters? But they are using their body and sleep with (very often) unfit, let's put it mildly, organisms. However, men also destroy (and also preserve) their body in fightings.

Maybe Brunhilda herself would have been such a spirit if she weren't a Queen. Perhaps high-spirited women use the lower type (for wealth => power) and create (a family) with their equals.
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Re: Nietzsche on woman & modern Brunhilda's

Postby Nicu on Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:10 pm

Barbarian wrote:You are hitting under the belt.

"Spirit without blood shall not be allowed" - N

A whore is a whore. There is evolution and revolution.

What if a dog inherits money?

Women can reach no fitness like men, so, forget fairy tales of "the strong woman Brunhilda"


So the whores are masters but they doesn't have honor? And this is the impediment to name them high spirits? (no sarcasm, i am serious :-)
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Re: Nietzsche on woman & modern Brunhilda's

Postby Nicu on Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:16 pm

Barbarian wrote:The problem with money is that it is not a real power. If you think that everybody who wants power is a "master". i would call money rather the "lever of power" and fitness the actual power. But nowadays this lever rules over power.


I meant that the skill of such women to use men is power. And they could use not only their money, but also connections for example.
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