Will to power in a jew morality driven society

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Will to power in a jew morality driven society

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Re: Will to power in a jew morality driven society

Postby Nicu on Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:02 pm

Barbarian wrote:Wealth which is not paired with the military virtu, has no value.
Only an army can organize a society.
Only a society can bring up a culture.
Only a culture can bring up a race.
Only a race is Overhumanly.


Napoleone's France? Vikings North Europe?
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Re: Will to power in a jew morality driven society

Postby Onasander on Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:42 am

Wealth which is not paired with the military virtu, has no value.
Only an army can organize a society.
Only a society can bring up a culture.
Only a culture can bring up a race.
Only a race is Overhumanly.


If I was to rationally present historical circumstances where each of these lines was shown to not be consistent or total with what we had known, would it matter to you one bit? Obviously, I can show you a bunch of societies founded by non-military expeditions in North America as well as throughout the Pacific and North Atlantic, as well as the Mediterranean- both ancient and modern. I can also show cultures that arouse gradually and in parallel that possessed social structures with very little interaction thanks to the trade of books and manuscripts, and knowledge in general. I can also show that no culture has been known to bring up a race that we know of save for small, inbreed hamlets or dynastic lines..... and they don't possess much that is considered good in effects for the long term- infact, I can show that it causes considerable harm. The Prince I met from africa (good guy, fourth in line for his island's throne) was a little, fat, worthless piece of shit who couldn't do anything other than form a opinion..... he and I had to plant alot of grass as punishment in basic, learned all sorts of crap about west africa from him).

I could give examples for all this, but your not going to recognize it anymore than if I told you the sound of a whistle on the battlefield meant artillery was on incomming and to take cover- you would scoff and stand out balls brazen defying it, and then I would have to carry your torn up butt to the meat wagon afterwards.

It should be interesting to note, a good many socieites have indeed bucked the trends above mentioned, and ended up quite successful. Sometimes Greed was the motivator, or fear, or Utopian desire, or just shit-poor luck in getting stranded or shipwreched on a island. Sometimes the aim was colonia, with no regard to defense (the pilgrims didn't land with a army, and jamestown's army was a horrible failure- it was fear and hope that formed Jamestown, and bribing, good will, and luck for the pilgrims. The armies came later, and the militia standards never allowed for the militia to hold power over the people. Every confederation was ad hoc, and every militia was voluntary and of a temporary measure- extraordinary. The entire appalacian frontier- where I spent my teenage years- where a entire society many times the size of your own nation was forged- was started in the hovel, and only in time in the centralized fort- and that was soon torn down, and had little role in controlling societal affairs. Greed existed obviously in those times, but honestly, when you can't even make glass or nail and everyone was a frontier farmer and a hunter fighting indians one on one- is that greed of the same nature as say the greed of a italian banker? No- it's a greed of a completely different nature as expressed in it's categorical conceptualization and formulation of values. A good many of the barbarian tribes in europe after the collapse of the western empire show a similar evolution- the army was increasingly rejected, and it almost completely died off save for a few holdings of warlords throughout much of conquered europe.

the paradigm just doesn't hold.

and really, can we stop with the jew thing? They are not even the richest minority in north america anymore, the greeks are, nor are they in europe. At least update the ethnicity. How about we use Arabs? They got a lot of money, and even do the army-centrist organization, and love greed. And what a race to behold! No one grows beards like that!
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Re: Will to power in a jew morality driven society

Postby deleuzianbastard on Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:12 pm

Onasander wrote:If I was to rationally present historical circumstances where each of these lines was shown to not be consistent or total with what we had known, would it matter to you one bit? Obviously, I can show you a bunch of societies founded by non-military expeditions in North America as well as throughout the Pacific and North Atlantic, as well as the Mediterranean- both ancient and modern. I can also show cultures that arouse gradually and in parallel that possessed social structures with very little interaction thanks to the trade of books and manuscripts, and knowledge in general. I can also show that no culture has been known to bring up a race that we know of save for small, inbreed hamlets or dynastic lines..... and they don't possess much that is considered good in effects for the long term- infact, I can show that it causes considerable harm. The Prince I met from africa (good guy, fourth in line for his island's throne) was a little, fat, worthless piece of shit who couldn't do anything other than form a opinion..... he and I had to plant alot of grass as punishment in basic, learned all sorts of crap about west africa from him).

I feel like theres some truth to the statement history is written by the victors, forms of civilization typically develop inundate the less violent and structured ones. In a perverted survival of the fittest i feel like selection occurs through selection of prevailing social reproduction in the production of militaristic agressive groups that inevitably wipe out nomadic ones. The only flourishing of power then only comes when they in turn direct their energies at militarism and organization say the bedouins developing islamic empire and mongols under khanates.
So I'd actually love to hear some of this. Anthropological studies are like sex for me and i'd appreciate reading a good look at native cultures that existed before civilization the agricultural revolution and/or industrialization respectively
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